tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1250195226200160668.post7135556705131616829..comments2023-07-07T04:02:25.375-04:00Comments on Sane Political Discourse: Day 1 - Procedure and WeatherPatrick Mhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16377933168305160179noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1250195226200160668.post-66961118050988165242008-09-04T01:01:00.000-04:002008-09-04T01:01:00.000-04:00And to Toad, who is so afraid of Gov. Palin I wond...And to Toad, who is so afraid of Gov. Palin I wonder what in Obama gives you such confidence, and don't you find it sad that people keep comparing the GOP's Vice Presidential choice to your Presidential choice?Bethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04069893764658122257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1250195226200160668.post-30451158517516320332008-09-03T23:45:00.000-04:002008-09-03T23:45:00.000-04:00I heard Sarah's first speech. She can give a good ...<I>I heard Sarah's first speech. She can give a good speech without a teleprompter. Uh, I've, uh, noticed, that, um, Barack Obama really, um, can't, uh, do that.</I><BR/><BR/>That's above his pay scale, Patrick.Bethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04069893764658122257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1250195226200160668.post-4135452360945470302008-09-03T22:18:00.000-04:002008-09-03T22:18:00.000-04:00They even wrote the speech weeks ago, it was repor...<I>They even wrote the speech weeks ago, it was reported, and had to "tweak" it to reflect that a woman is speaking it.</I><BR/><BR/>Shaw, you've got to stop the incessant watching of MSNBC (<I>Must Suck Now Barry's Cock</I>). There's a difference between slant and propaganda.<BR/><BR/>Two points. First, every major speech from both parties gets an assload of rewrites. McCain's, Obamas, and every other. Discover reality, please.<BR/><BR/>Second, I heard Sarah's first speech. She can give a good speech <B>without</B> a teleprompter. Uh, I've, uh, noticed, that, um, Barack Obama really, um, can't, uh, do that.Patrick Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16377933168305160179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1250195226200160668.post-86983509089968756572008-09-03T21:10:00.000-04:002008-09-03T21:10:00.000-04:00The RNC has been prepping Ms. Palin for the last 6...The RNC has been prepping Ms. Palin for the last 6 days. They even wrote the speech weeks ago, it was reported, and had to "tweak" it to reflect that a woman is speaking it.<BR/><BR/>Yes. She will do a sparkling, bang-up, stupendous, jaw-dropping job of delivering someone else's speech. The convention will explode with joy and jubilation! Sarah will be crowned Queen of Mooseburgers! I guarantee it! <BR/><BR/>PS. Barack Obama not only delivers his speeches exceptionally well, but he actually writes them.<BR/><BR/>That's amazing.Shaw Kenawehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08637273000409613497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1250195226200160668.post-44312734161976063212008-09-03T10:37:00.000-04:002008-09-03T10:37:00.000-04:00Beth: I could, but I was actually seeing if you h...Beth: I could, but I was actually seeing if you had different expectations for men and women. I was actually referring to Joe Biden. The point is that she knew what she was getting into. I'm assuming the family discussed this prior and everybody said go.<BR/><BR/>And it's not as though Palin could say, "Can it wait until I get my family life straight?" The VP slot is usually a 1-time shot.<BR/><BR/>Toad: Thanks for vomiting forth the talking points again.Patrick Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16377933168305160179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1250195226200160668.post-15671421513976797972008-09-03T09:47:00.000-04:002008-09-03T09:47:00.000-04:00Oh I am scared of Palin. I am terrified to think t...Oh I am scared of Palin. I am terrified to think that someone who was the mayor of an Alaskan Town of 8000 people could be one step away from the Whitehouse. I am scared that she was just issued her first passport last year. If eating mooseburgers and making babies and firing people who divorced your sister, was all it took to be qualified to be President I wouldn't be so worried.<BR/><BR/>I hope that clears it up for you.Toad734https://www.blogger.com/profile/01450263690181812924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1250195226200160668.post-23006640861456267822008-09-03T07:41:00.000-04:002008-09-03T07:41:00.000-04:00What about a single father who went to Washington ...<I>What about a single father who went to Washington while raising a family? Would that be him putting his career ahead of his children?</I><BR/><BR/>You thinking of running?<BR/><BR/>:-)Bethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04069893764658122257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1250195226200160668.post-28777809913019907252008-09-03T01:47:00.000-04:002008-09-03T01:47:00.000-04:00Obob: Don't get me started about the potestors. A...Obob: Don't get me started about the potestors. After another story about day 2's protests, I added Asshat Watch to the convention posts. Nothing of value, just a reason to rip these pisstwizzlers. Speaking of which....<BR/><BR/>Toad: You missed the memo. You don't rip into the children of candidates. I don't care who the child is. At most, the discussion is about issues raised by the story. Palin will be judged by how she handles the public aspects of the story and how it relates to her beliefs and positions.<BR/><BR/>Beth: What about a single father who went to Washington while raising a family? Would that be him putting his career ahead of his children?<BR/><BR/>Mike: Agree with you as much as I may, do you ever add anything other than just ripping Toad and Shaw?<BR/><BR/>Shaw: From what I've read about Palin and what I've guessed, you'll be surprised by her ability to rise to the occasion. <BR/><BR/>As for the numbers, I have also suspected she'll turn out to me a little more moderate on financial things than I like.Patrick Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16377933168305160179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1250195226200160668.post-66771361966784261462008-09-02T20:50:00.000-04:002008-09-02T20:50:00.000-04:00Mike, we are not "scared" of Sarah Palin. We are ...Mike, we are not "scared" of Sarah Palin. We are amazed at the recklessness of McCain's choice.<BR/><BR/>BTW: For all of Palin’s talk about fiscal conservatism and smaller government, Alaska’s state spending per capita, at $12,833, is by far the highest in the nation. (Compared to only $5,303 in Washington state.)Shaw Kenawehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08637273000409613497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1250195226200160668.post-18687503802644455562008-09-02T20:40:00.000-04:002008-09-02T20:40:00.000-04:00It's amazing to see the total lack of subtlety and...It's amazing to see the total lack of subtlety and the utter transparent sliminess of the Toadbat-Shaw Obama inspired smear machine.<BR/><BR/>How many times have I read one of them start a commenent with the disclaimer that they are not hear to smear Sarah Palin and then do just that.<BR/><BR/>Why are they so scared of Sarah Palin?Mike's Americahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01262938295909490454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1250195226200160668.post-18212718895380828292008-09-02T18:24:00.000-04:002008-09-02T18:24:00.000-04:00I personally question a mother who would put her p...I personally question a mother who would put her political aspirations ahead of her daughter, but as to the Democrats (not Obama because he has to look above it) who are so giddy with excitement at the plight of another just goes to show how childish politics has become today.<BR/><BR/>It's not about ideas anymore, it's about winning at all cost, by putting the other guy down as far as you can.Bethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04069893764658122257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1250195226200160668.post-35054764712011518672008-09-02T17:32:00.000-04:002008-09-02T17:32:00.000-04:00I said I didn't care. It doesn't bother me that he...I said I didn't care. It doesn't bother me that her daughter is knocked up other than if it were Obama's daughter we would never hear the end of it from Republicans.Toad734https://www.blogger.com/profile/01450263690181812924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1250195226200160668.post-68106534659254462112008-09-02T13:42:00.000-04:002008-09-02T13:42:00.000-04:00no guilt in porn, just poltics. A good debate mak...no guilt in porn, just poltics. A good debate makes me frisky, but Hllary's video was a cockblocker.<BR/>and I would like to award medals to the herioc anarchists for attacking cub scouts and neo conservative windows. Or the pro-globalization trash cans. I did notice recycling bins went untouched as thier brothers and sisters in arms!<BR/>power to the people<BR/>next stop, starbucks!<BR/>jackassesObobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06261733108326045809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1250195226200160668.post-46366518181170947082008-09-02T10:30:00.000-04:002008-09-02T10:30:00.000-04:00Regarding coverage of 1st Children:Chelsea didn't ...Regarding coverage of 1st Children:<BR/><BR/>Chelsea didn't pass out at frat parties. Jenna Bush routinely made headlines but Barbara was rarely mentioned. If Jenna kept her nose clean, the media would have left her a lone like Chelsea and Barbara.<BR/><BR/>I agree with Shawn, if fact, what he is talking about is what angers me most about conservatives and REpublicans or hypocrites in general. I don't personally care if her daughter is a tramp and got knocked up at the age of 17, it doesn't offend me as I knew a lot of people growing up who were parents by the times they were 18. However, if she is going to be the conservative, morals, family values side of the ticket, I have to call bullshit. Its just more of the "Do as I say not as I do" mentality of the reich wingers.Toad734https://www.blogger.com/profile/01450263690181812924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1250195226200160668.post-11058716841845379462008-09-02T10:15:00.000-04:002008-09-02T10:15:00.000-04:00No good excuses for violence unless a country has ...No good excuses for violence unless a country has vast amounts of oil reserves you mean.Toad734https://www.blogger.com/profile/01450263690181812924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1250195226200160668.post-75849022581191420892008-09-02T10:01:00.000-04:002008-09-02T10:01:00.000-04:00Saint: The jury is still out here on Sarah Palin....Saint: The jury is still out here on Sarah Palin. I have to wait to see if she discusses the situation, puts it in with her beliefs and principles, and gets it right. <BR/><BR/>I would say that you're lucky to have gotten it right the first time. Both my sister and I didn't. But what matters is how we deal with these challenges as they come.<BR/><BR/>Obob: You feel guilty looking at porn?Patrick Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16377933168305160179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1250195226200160668.post-49815980866683884772008-09-02T09:00:00.000-04:002008-09-02T09:00:00.000-04:00this is politics. It is like porn, dirty, vile, a...this is politics. It is like porn, dirty, vile, addicitive and you feel guilty when you look at on the internet. <BR/>and any party will do what it takes to win. each party has attack dogs to do the dirty work and it was been going on since our experiment was enacted. It will always happen when money is at stake and power is coveted. The democrats do not play nice. Neither do the republicans. do you really think when sideshow bob told bart not to mess with the republican party is was a joke? no it was a veiled attack from the left on the right. funny yes, but the subtleties were glaringObobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06261733108326045809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1250195226200160668.post-53900328147326432322008-09-02T08:49:00.000-04:002008-09-02T08:49:00.000-04:00The left will never understand being a Christian. ...The left will never understand being a Christian. They somehow think Christians think of themselves as perfect and therefore should never sin. Their problem with all of this is they know nobama is in deep trouble along with their socialist America. <BR/><BR/>By the way... my wife and I HAD to get married at 18 and we have been married for 27 years. Almost every friend we have is on their 2nd or 3rd marriage. Character and commitment is what it is about, not age. And Sara palin has character.<BR/>I'm for her 100 percent.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1250195226200160668.post-42931799448673105152008-09-02T02:05:00.000-04:002008-09-02T02:05:00.000-04:00First of all, Shaw, you really need to read the ru...First of all, Shaw, you really need to read the rules again. That having been said....<BR/><BR/><I>I want to discuss the DOUBLE STANDARD - you know; the one where if Bristol Palin was Malia Obama, the media would be all over how Barack and Michelle Obama are incompetent parents who taught Malia loose morals.</I><BR/><BR/>Okay, let's deal with the difference in coverage of the last three white house children: Chelsea Clinton and the Bush girls.<BR/><BR/>If I remember correctly, any coverage on Chelsea was seriously limited. I'm sure you'll cut and paste a joke or two over the eight years. However, the shenanigans of the Bush girls was covered in the tabloids regularly.<BR/><BR/>Of course, the difference there was that Barbara and Jenna were adults for most of that time and Chelsea was a child for the most part.<BR/><BR/>Now I don't know anybody that posts comments here that makes it their duty to chew the ass of the children or wives of the candidates UNLESS they are out on the stump saying things. I know that's my standard for posting anything, unless what I post is really funny. <BR/><BR/>The fact is that there are shitholes on both sides that regularly practice the art of oral bowel movements. You clean out your crap and I'll do my best to clean out mine.Patrick Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16377933168305160179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1250195226200160668.post-32017455118683597512008-09-02T01:53:00.000-04:002008-09-02T01:53:00.000-04:00From the land of moderation: Shaw Hussein Kenawe h...From the land of moderation: <BR/><BR/><I><A HREF="http://progressiveerupts.blogspot.com/" REL="nofollow">Shaw Hussein Kenawe</A> has left a new comment on your post "The 2008 Convention II: Hey! We're Groovy Too!":<BR/><BR/>Regarding the news of Sarah Palin's daughter's pregnancy, I will be the first to agree that the children should be off limits on both sides of the aisle. But, My God, I’m fast getting tired of the expectation that the Democrats play by the rules when the Repubs continue to demonstrate their approach to a political election is worthy of Malcolm X, “By Any Means Necessary.”<BR/><BR/>I want to discuss the DOUBLE STANDARD - you know; the one where if Bristol Palin was Malia Obama, the media would be all over how Barack and Michelle Obama are incompetent parents who taught Malia loose morals. While I am happy that the Palin family is supporting Bristol, and they should, let’s not allow the waxing poetic of what warm family values this represents. Sarah Palin is a woman added to McCain’s ticket that points to her five children as a virtue of being pro-life; but what gives her the right to tell me what to do with my reproductive organs?<BR/><BR/>Yet, the fact that McCain’s choice for the VP ticket is carrying so much baggage, she would get charged to check them on American Airlines; the abject failure to vet this woman and select her over many more qualified female candidates like Kay Bailey Hutchinson, Christie Todd Whitman, Olympia Snowe, is speaking loudly to mock Affirmative Action concepts; the MSM spent all day this weekend waxing poetic on what a good choice Sarah Palin is. Dammit, if anything, if Cronkite and the late Tim Russert were on the scene, someone would be calling bullshyt on this choice and calling it loudly, and especially decrying McCain’s failure to pass a very important Commander-In-Chief test - who do you trust to be put in charge in case something happens to YOU?</I>Patrick Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16377933168305160179noreply@blogger.com