tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1250195226200160668.post4784520991554917457..comments2023-07-07T04:02:25.375-04:00Comments on Sane Political Discourse: Election 2009 and the 2012 ProspectsPatrick Mhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16377933168305160179noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1250195226200160668.post-70909223088391614852009-11-19T14:02:08.166-05:002009-11-19T14:02:08.166-05:00No Toad, you don't. You've said enough to...No Toad, you don't. You've said enough to prove my point beyond a shadow of a doubt. You make snap assessments of people by what groups they can be pigeonholed in. I take each person by his positions on each issue free associations and make an assessment regardless of grouping.Patrick Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16377933168305160179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1250195226200160668.post-41657466244291056792009-11-18T11:08:40.748-05:002009-11-18T11:08:40.748-05:00Until 2008 every candidate since Reagan was dismis...Until 2008 every candidate since Reagan was dismissed because they weren't a southerner. I am tired of the most backwards part of our country electing our Presidents. And people from South Carolina can be fine, politicians from South Carolina have a real bad track record and typically end up being the ones who would be in the Klan, support Jim Crowe laws and think the 10 Commandments should be part of the Constitution. How many of those TV evangelicals are from SC?? That state practically invented racism, segregation and racial profiling. They still have the stars and bars on their flag and think that its a good thing. Their University's mascot is a cock...Do i need to keep going?Toad734https://www.blogger.com/profile/01450263690181812924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1250195226200160668.post-84264223259310977542009-11-12T15:15:40.005-05:002009-11-12T15:15:40.005-05:00Toad: The Bush family is out because we've ha...Toad: The Bush family is out because we've had them for 12 years. Period. Romney is questionable for his conservatism (although vs McCain, he was a staunch conservative).<br /><br />As for Jim DeMint:<br /><br />First, you dismiss someone because of where they live? How provincial. That would be like the GOP dismissing a candidate from California for being from California (with a very different 1980's). Damn, how provincial you are.<br /><br />Second, the government is horribly entangled in the banking industry and is gaining more control over private industry with each bill (including in the Healthscare monstrosity). If he gets that, good.<br /><br />Why would be voting for a war that you believe is necessary (remember, this is based on what information we all had at the time) be hypocritical? While less and smaller government is a good thing, one reasonable function of that government is fighting enemies. And that's what the Senate was voting overwhelmingly to do, even if it proved to be a mess.Patrick Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16377933168305160179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1250195226200160668.post-87901527482739580082009-11-11T16:24:14.532-05:002009-11-11T16:24:14.532-05:00So in the 2 seconds I was on the Demint link on yo...So in the 2 seconds I was on the Demint link on your page I learned he was from South Carolina...strike one, and he is one of those people who actually think that the Government has taken over the banking industry and wants to take over private corporations...Strike two for just being uneducated....I am sure there is a strike three if I were to hear him give a speech or read more than 2 lines about his positions.<br /><br />Sure, lower taxes and lower government spending would be great but then why did he vote for the Iraq war?? Hypocrite! Oh, that would be strike 3.Toad734https://www.blogger.com/profile/01450263690181812924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1250195226200160668.post-55728749841927494462009-11-11T16:19:17.355-05:002009-11-11T16:19:17.355-05:00A good list for Obama in 2012, not for the Republi...A good list for Obama in 2012, not for the Republican chances of winning an election. Again, maybe Demint but if his mental capacities and education put him in the same category with Bachman and Palin then bring it on. The Dems would love to debate against children whose parents let out of the homeschool recess a little too early.<br /><br />What scares me are the people with the last name of Bush who have all the Muslim oil money backing them or someone like Romney who seems to actually be smart until you realize he believes in magic underwear and that Joseph Smith was the next Jesus. Someone who believes in a fairy tale more ridiculous than Christianity is a scary concept for a world leader.Toad734https://www.blogger.com/profile/01450263690181812924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1250195226200160668.post-32094847832612182022009-11-10T14:43:22.564-05:002009-11-10T14:43:22.564-05:00Toad: The ones on this list are the ones that app...Toad: The ones on this list are the ones that appear not to be the big government conservatives. That's not to say for certain that they aren't (Palin being the one I want to be clear on her ideas). And the one you were least insulting happens to be at the top of my list.<br /><br />Although your reaction and dismissal of all of them convince me I have a good list.<br /><br />At least tell me you enjoyed the palinaspresident link. :)Patrick Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16377933168305160179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1250195226200160668.post-87770096016069032452009-11-10T13:33:50.944-05:002009-11-10T13:33:50.944-05:00Bachman= possibly dumber than Palin. I know that i...Bachman= possibly dumber than Palin. I know that is hard to fathom but shes an idiot. I would love to see her try to debate Obama. I would definitely record that one and send it out as an April fools email or something.<br /><br />Jindal: That little twerp? I think all the air was let out of his tires after Obamas address. Even though he is the governor of a state like Louisiana, to people in South Carolina, Alabama, Oklahoma, Indiana, North Dakota and Alaska, he still looks like a terrorist. Not a chance.<br /><br />Palin: Please please please let it be Palin. Obama is probably already making contributions to her primary campaign fund. Stupid is as stupid does. She doesn't know anything. Is this really who you want as president?? Is this whose hand you really want on the button. I mean, I know the Jesus crowd could be that much closer to Armageddon with her but thats not really good for the rest of us.<br /><br />Cheney won't be alive by the next election and no one is going to make that mistake twice anyway.<br /><br />I don't know much about Demint but out of this crew he definitely has the best chance.<br /><br />I wouldn't rule out Jeb but then again, this isn't a monarchy so....<br /><br />By the way, none of the people you mentioned besides maybe Demint, is for a smaller government. All of them want to go invade every Muslim country on the planet, or any country that threatens Israel, or any country that says bad things about us and set up bases and expand military powers to unprecedented levels. That doesn't equal a smaller, cheaper or weaker federal government. You need to get over that point once and for all.Toad734https://www.blogger.com/profile/01450263690181812924noreply@blogger.com